Opened 9 years ago
Last modified 8 years ago
#9334 closed enhancement
Implement Hilbert symbols over number fields — at Version 32
Reported by: | aly.deines | Owned by: | davidloeffler |
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Priority: | major | Milestone: | sage-4.8 |
Component: | number fields | Keywords: | hilbert symbol |
Cc: | mstreng, jdemeyer | Merged in: | |
Authors: | Aly Deines, Marco Streng | Reviewers: | David Loeffler, John Cremona, Marco Streng |
Report Upstream: | Fixed upstream, in a later stable release. | Work issues: | make sure all doctests in this patch are correct (or finish Aly Deines' independent implementation) |
Branch: | Commit: | ||
Dependencies: | #11304, #11540, #11130 | Stopgaps: |
Description (last modified by )
PARI has Hilbert symbols for number fields. Hilbert symbols can be implemented by wrapping PARI's function nfhilbert
.
Change History (34)
comment:1 Changed 9 years ago by
- Status changed from new to needs_work
comment:2 Changed 9 years ago by
- Status changed from needs_work to needs_review
I changed the code as Tim (correctly) suggested so as it doesn't assume reduced input.
comment:3 Changed 9 years ago by
This has better uniformizer code.
comment:4 Changed 9 years ago by
- Status changed from needs_review to needs_work
- Work issues set to patch does not apply
This doesn't seem to apply to 4.4.4. Does it require some other patch as a prerequisite? Also, the docstrings don't seem to be correctly ReST formatted (you should always run sage -docbuild reference html
and check that there are no warnings before submitting a patch).
comment:5 Changed 9 years ago by
- Work issues changed from patch does not apply to ReST formatting issues
I see. So it's supposed to be applied on top of the patches at #9317. That's fine, but you should explain this in your trac upload messages. Don't repost random patches from other tickets on this ticket -- that's just unnecessary duplication, and it's confusing for the release maintainer when s/he has to merge stuff later.
Anyway: with the #9317 patches in place these four patches apply fine, and all doctests pass. But they're quite hard to review, since you seem to have added code in one place in the first patch and then removed it and added it again somewhere else in the second. Could I suggest that you use the Mercurial "qfold" command to combine the four patches into one single patch? That would make the reviewer's job vastly easier. And don't forget those docstring formatting problems; the two that stand out most at a quick glance are that the LaTeX formulae should be in backticks not dollar signs (`x^2 + 2`
etc), and the LaTeX fraction command is \frac
not \frak
.
comment:6 Changed 9 years ago by
Here is one single patch. It does not depend on ticket #9317. This should have all the documentation fixed. Thank you for your patience, I've learned a lot about Mercurial and ReST formatting recently.
I also applied this on a clean clone of 4.4.2 to check that it would build, all the doctest pass, and the -docbuild looks correct.
comment:7 Changed 9 years ago by
Most of this looks fine, and the docstring formatting is much better; but there are some technical issues.
- The code in
solver_mod_p
is obviously wrong for n > 1: it calculates the inverse modulo P^{n} but then takes the square root of this modulo P. You need some kind of Hensel lifting or suchlike to get an answer that's right modulo P^{n}.
- The code in
uniformizer
is a mess (e.g. it trivially fails for any non-principal ideal in a number field of degree > 2, because you've assumedself.integral_basis()
has length 2). But there's already a methodsage.rings.number_field.number_field.NumberField_generic.uniformizer
(taking a prime as an argument). I agree that it is worth having uniformizers accessible via a method of ideals as well, but it should just be a thin wrapper around the existing code.
comment:8 Changed 9 years ago by
- Cc mstreng added
- Milestone changed from sage-wishlist to sage-5.0
- Reviewers set to David Loeffler, John Cremona
- Work issues changed from ReST formatting issues to ReST formatting issues, and more
I generally agree with David's points. This code will be very useful for a topic begin done at SD23 (solving conics over various fields) so I am keen to get this in (suitably modified).
In generalized_legendre_symbol: (1) test P for primality first, before trying to construct its residue field. (2) instead of K(2).valuation(P) just test that n is odd. (3) don't raise run-time errors, make them ValueErrors??. (4) make the return types consistent: you return either +1 in k or -1 as a python int. I would return a Sage integer in either case. (5) you do not test if P divides self. If so, return 0 (as a Sage integer)>
Why are generalized_hilbert_symbol and _legendre_symbol in sage/rings/arith.py? I would put them both in number_fields -- where you put the even one in fact.
In generalized_even_hilbert_symbol you define but do not use iprime, so delete it. And do the simple calculation to get the coefficients of jprime2 so you don't need to construct the quaternion algebra. (You can leave in a comment about that).
_voight_alg_6_2 has some ^{ symbols which should be . Check for others. }
Do what David said about uniformizer -- just call the existing function.
Sort out the solve function.
comment:9 Changed 9 years ago by
Great, I could use this.
While you are still at it, I have a small wish list as well. Could you
- Let the generalized even Hilbert symbol accept fractions (as the odd one and the QQ one do)?
sage: hilbert_symbol(1/3, 1, 2) 1 sage: K.<i> = QuadraticField(-1) sage: O = K.maximal_order() sage: generalized_hilbert_symbol(K(1/2), K(1), 3*O) 1 sage: generalized_hilbert_symbol(K(1/3), K(1), (1+i)*O) NotImplementedError: inverse_mod is not implemented for non-integral elements
- Also add the Hilbert symbol for infinite places? See e.g.
sage: hilbert_symbol(-1, -1, -1) -1
This is almost trivial compared to what you've already done. I have code, contact me if you have questions.
- Correct the doc text. The doc of generalized_even_hilbert_symbol should say that P must divide 2, while generalized_hilbert_symbol should not say that P must be odd
comment:10 Changed 9 years ago by
In addition to the first part of my precious comment: generalized_even_hilbert_symbol should accept a and b to both be divisible by p.
sage: hilbert_symbol(2,2,2) 1 sage: K.<i>=QuadraticField(-1) sage: O=K.maximal_order() sage: generalized_hilbert_symbol(3,3,3*O) 1 sage: generalized_hilbert_symbol(2,2,2*O) ValueError: P must be a prime
comment:11 Changed 9 years ago by
Oops, the last two lines of my previous comment should of course read
sage: p = 1+i sage: generalized_hilbert_symbol(p,p,p*O) RuntimeError: ord_P(a) or ord_P(b) must be zero
comment:12 Changed 9 years ago by
- Priority changed from minor to major
comment:13 Changed 9 years ago by
- Description modified (diff)
- Summary changed from hilbert symbols!!! to Implement Hilbert symbols over number fields
Alyson, are you intending to fix the various points raised by reviewers here? If not, someone else should. Ticket #9320 is waiting on this one.
comment:14 Changed 9 years ago by
Here are the changes I've made so far:
- in generalized_legendred_symbol I test for primality first
- instead of K(2).valuation(P) I just test that n is odd
- I've changed RunTime? Errors to ValueErrors?
- I return +/- 1 as sage integers
- I test if P|self and if so return 0 (as a sage integer)
- in generalized_hilbert_symbol I deleted iprime
- I did the calculation and have hard coded jprime^{2 }
- I've replace ^{ with where necessary in _voight_alg_6_2 }
- Things should work for fractions
- generalized_hilbert_symbol should also accept a,b, divisible by p
One question I have, does anyone know about hensel lifting in sage?
comment:15 Changed 9 years ago by
Excellent -- should it be "needs review" again then?
There must be places in Sage where Hensel lifting is done, but I do not know of any general framework for it. You could try asking David Roe, who (I think) wrote a lot of the p-adic code.
comment:16 Changed 9 years ago by
No, it shouldn't be "needs review" yet. I still need to fix solver_mod_p.
comment:17 Changed 9 years ago by
- Status changed from needs_work to needs_review
I have fixed solver_mod so that it computes the square root mod P^{n. }
comment:18 Changed 9 years ago by
Fixes/added documentation. Has the examples above in the documentation.
comment:19 Changed 9 years ago by
- Status changed from needs_review to needs_work
Based on 4.5.3.alpha1:
sage -t sage/rings/number_field/number_field_ideal.py ********************************************************************** File "/home/rlmill/sage-4.5.3.alpha1/devel/sage-main/sage/rings/number_field/number_field_ideal.py", line 1212: sage: P.uniformizer() Expected: a + 4 Got: -2*a + 1 ********************************************************************** File "/home/rlmill/sage-4.5.3.alpha1/devel/sage-main/sage/rings/number_field/number_field_ideal.py", line 1219: sage: P.uniformizer() Expected: -7*a^4 + 13*a^3 - 13*a^2 - 2*a + 50 Got: a^4 - a^3 + a^2 - a + 1 **********************************************************************
comment:20 Changed 9 years ago by
- Status changed from needs_work to needs_review
Ok, I checked at P.uniformizer() is just wrapping K.uniformizer(P). So assuming K.uniformizer(P) is correct (which it appears to be), I've fixed the documentation for P.uniformizer().
comment:21 Changed 9 years ago by
- Status changed from needs_review to needs_work
Here are some comments have already been mentioned above:
- why aren't generalized_hilbert_symbol and generalized_even_hilbert_symbol in the same file? (e.g. both in number_field as John suggested)
- the documentation of generalized_hilbert_symbol says that the prime should be odd, which isn't necessary, in fact, it would be good to have an even example in the doctest so this functionality doesn't get broken
- the documentation of generalized_even_hilbert_symbol doesn't say that the prime must be even, which it should!
Also, generalized_even_hilbert_symbol is less powerful than the general one:
sage: K.<i> = QuadraticField(-1) sage: O = K.maximal_order() sage: generalized_hilbert_symbol(K(1/3), K(1), (1+i)*O) 1 sage: generalized_even_hilbert_symbol(K(1/3), K(1), (1+i)*O) ... NotImplementedError: inverse_mod is not implemented for non-integral elements
So I guess the documentation of generalized_even_hilbert_symbol should say that the input should consist of integral elements? Possibly the documentation of generalized_even_hilbert_symbol could say that this is simply an auxiliary function and the user should call generalized_hilbert_symbol instead?
needs_work because of the documentation issues for generalized_even_hilbert_symbol
comment:22 Changed 9 years ago by
- Reviewers changed from David Loeffler, John Cremona to David Loeffler, John Cremona, Marco Streng
here's a non-documentation reason for needs_work
:
sage: K.<i> = QuadraticField(-1) sage: O = K.maximal_order() sage: generalized_hilbert_symbol(K(-1/3), K(-2/3), (1+i)*O) ... ValueError: self is not a square root mod P^n
comment:23 Changed 9 years ago by
And here's another one. In Magma, I get:
> L := QuadraticField(5); > O := MaximalOrder(L); > HilbertSymbol(L!-3, L!-2, 2*O); 1 1/2 + 1/2*i j
In pari, I get:
? k = nfinit(x^2-5) ... ? nfhilbert(k, -3, -2, idealprimedec(k, 2)[1]) %2 = 1
But the patch gives:
sage: L.<a> = QuadraticField(5) sage: generalized_hilbert_symbol(L(-3), L(-2), 2*O) -1
Something is wrong...
comment:24 Changed 9 years ago by
In fact, what are the reasons for implementing this independently rather than using pari's function?
comment:25 Changed 9 years ago by
- Description modified (diff)
- Work issues changed from ReST formatting issues, and more to bug in Pari 2.4.3
All that needed to be done was wrap pari's nfhilbert function and copy Aly's doctests, but...
One of those doctests revealed yet another bug introduced by the pari upgrade. See http://pari.math.u-bordeaux.fr/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=1147
Apply trac_9334_nfhilbert.patch once pari bug 1147 is fixed and that fix reaches Sage.
Possible future improvements:
- implement also for relative number fields by simply delegating to the absolute case
- implement also for QQ by wrapping the global function hilbert_symbol as a member of QQ
comment:26 Changed 9 years ago by
- Report Upstream changed from N/A to Reported upstream. Little or no feedback.
comment:27 Changed 9 years ago by
- Report Upstream changed from Reported upstream. Little or no feedback. to Reported upstream. Developers acknowledge bug.
comment:28 Changed 9 years ago by
- Work issues changed from bug in Pari 2.4.3 to either wait for Pari bug 1147 to be fixed, or finish Aly Deines' independent Sage implementation
comment:29 follow-up: ↓ 30 Changed 9 years ago by
- Cc jdemeyer added
- Report Upstream changed from Reported upstream. Developers acknowledge bug. to Fixed upstream, but not in a stable release.
- Work issues changed from either wait for Pari bug 1147 to be fixed, or finish Aly Deines' independent Sage implementation to update pari in sage, and make sure all doctests in this patch are correct (or finish Aly Deines' independent implementation)
The pari bug resulting in incorrect outputs of nfhilbert was fixed in Pari svn revision 13063 2011-04-05 14:03:38 +0100 (Tue, 05 Apr 2011).
How do we get this fix into Sage?
comment:30 in reply to: ↑ 29 Changed 9 years ago by
Replying to mstreng:
The pari bug resulting in incorrect outputs of nfhilbert was fixed in Pari svn revision 13063 2011-04-05 14:03:38 +0100 (Tue, 05 Apr 2011).
How do we get this fix into Sage?
I am currently maintaining the PARI spkg for Sage, so asking me is the best way.
comment:31 Changed 9 years ago by
See #11130.
comment:32 Changed 8 years ago by
- Dependencies set to #11304, #11540, #11130
- Description modified (diff)
- Report Upstream changed from Fixed upstream, but not in a stable release. to Fixed upstream, in a later stable release.
- Work issues changed from update pari in sage, and make sure all doctests in this patch are correct (or finish Aly Deines' independent implementation) to make sure all doctests in this patch are correct (or finish Aly Deines' independent implementation)
Here all the functions are better placed. I still need to fix the code so that generalized_hilbert_symbol(a,b,P) doesn't assume a.valuation(P) and b.valuation(P) are 0 or 1.