#25076 closed defect (fixed)
Fix Matrix_gfpn_dense * int
Reported by:  SimonKing  Owned by:  

Priority:  critical  Milestone:  sage8.2 
Component:  coercion  Keywords:  
Cc:  tscrim  Merged in:  
Authors:  Simon King  Reviewers:  Jeroen Demeyer 
Report Upstream:  N/A  Work issues:  
Branch:  f0e97af (Commits, GitHub, GitLab)  Commit:  
Dependencies:  #24742  Stopgaps: 
Description (last modified by )
The following previous bug was fixed by #24742:
sage: M = matrix(GF(9,'x'), 2,3) sage: type(M) <type 'sage.matrix.matrix_gfpn_dense.Matrix_gfpn_dense'> sage: M*1 [0 0 0] [0 0 0] sage: M*int(1) ... ValueError: Cannot initialise nonsquare matrix from 1
This ticket adds a test that makes sure that the issue remains fixed.
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comment:1 followup: ↓ 2 Changed 3 years ago by
comment:2 in reply to: ↑ 1 Changed 3 years ago by
Replying to SimonKing:
While we are at it: How is one supposed to run optional tests? It seems that "sage t optional=meataxe" will ONLY run the tests marked as optional, hence, it will skip all compulsory tests, and thus will fail in most tests as definitions given in the compulsory tests are missing when running the optional tests.
sage t optional=meataxe,sage
will do.
comment:3 Changed 3 years ago by
 Cc tscrim added
comment:4 Changed 3 years ago by
Works for me:
SageMath version 8.2.rc0, Release Date: 20180328 sage: M = matrix(GF(9,'x'), 2,3); type(M) <type 'sage.matrix.matrix_gfpn_dense.Matrix_gfpn_dense'> sage: M * int(1) [0 0 0] [0 0 0]
comment:5 in reply to: ↑ description Changed 3 years ago by
Replying to SimonKing:
Crashboom ... ValueError: Cannot initialise nonsquare matrix from 1
Please read https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/sagedevel/H0t9l6XdfPI
comment:6 followup: ↓ 7 Changed 3 years ago by
Simon: can you specify which version of Sage you using and whether any patches are applied?
comment:7 in reply to: ↑ 6 ; followup: ↓ 9 Changed 3 years ago by
Replying to jdemeyer:
Simon: can you specify which version of Sage you using and whether any patches are applied?
Sorry. It's the branch from #18514, which means Sage 8.5.beta2. Another change: I recently installed tkinter. And something seems to be broken anyway: "git status" gives me untracked files bin/
, share/
etc. Likely reason: When I manually installed something, I gave the wrong prefix (SAGE_ROOT instead of SAGE_LOCAL) during configuration.
After removing the misplaced directories, reinstalling the packages and sage br, I get
sage: M = MatrixSpace(GF(9,'x'), 2,3)() sage: type(M) <type 'sage.matrix.matrix_gfpn_dense.Matrix_gfpn_dense'> sage: M*int(1)  ValueError Traceback (most recent call last) <ipythoninput31a2faedb318b> in <module>() > 1 M*int(Integer(1)) /home/king/Sage/git/sage/src/sage/structure/element.pyx in sage.structure.element.Matrix.__mul__ (build/cythonized/sage/structure/element.c:23460)() 3671 if have_same_parent(left, right): 3672 return (<Matrix>left)._matrix_times_matrix_(<Matrix>right) > 3673 return coercion_model.bin_op(left, right, mul) 3674 3675 def __truediv__(left, right): /home/king/Sage/git/sage/src/sage/structure/coerce.pyx in sage.structure.coerce.CoercionModel_cache_maps.bin_op (build/cythonized/sage/structure/coerce.c:9671)() 1111 if xp is yp: 1112 return op(x,y) > 1113 action = self.get_action(xp, yp, op, x, y) 1114 if action is not None: 1115 return (<Action>action)._call_(x, y) /home/king/Sage/git/sage/src/sage/structure/coerce.pyx in sage.structure.coerce.CoercionModel_cache_maps.get_action (build/cythonized/sage/structure/coerce.c:16889)() 1654 except KeyError: 1655 pass > 1656 action = self.discover_action(R, S, op, r, s) 1657 action = self.verify_action(action, R, S, op) 1658 self._action_maps.set(R, S, op, action) /home/king/Sage/git/sage/src/sage/structure/coerce.pyx in sage.structure.coerce.CoercionModel_cache_maps.discover_action (build/cythonized/sage/structure/coerce.c:18411)() 1804 1805 if isinstance(R, Parent): > 1806 action = (<Parent>R).get_action(S, op, True, r, s) 1807 if action is not None: 1808 return action /home/king/Sage/git/sage/src/sage/structure/parent.pyx in sage.structure.parent.Parent.get_action (build/cythonized/sage/structure/parent.c:21664)() 2493 action = self._get_action_(S, op, self_on_left) 2494 if action is None: > 2495 action = self.discover_action(S, op, self_on_left, self_el, S_el) 2496 2497 if action is not None: /home/king/Sage/git/sage/src/sage/structure/parent.pyx in sage.structure.parent.Parent.discover_action (build/cythonized/sage/structure/parent.c:23017)() 2604 return action 2605 > 2606 if parent_is_integers(S) and not self.has_coerce_map_from(S): 2607 from sage.structure.coerce_actions import IntegerMulAction 2608 try: /home/king/Sage/git/sage/src/sage/structure/parent.pyx in sage.structure.parent.Parent.has_coerce_map_from (build/cythonized/sage/structure/parent.c:17925)() 2022 print("Warning: nonunique parents %s" % (type(S))) 2023 return True > 2024 return self._internal_coerce_map_from(S) is not None 2025 2026 cpdef _coerce_map_from_(self, S): /home/king/Sage/git/sage/src/sage/structure/parent.pyx in sage.structure.parent.Parent._internal_coerce_map_from (build/cythonized/sage/structure/parent.c:18944)() 2164 try: 2165 _register_pair(self, S, "coerce") > 2166 mor = self.discover_coerce_map_from(S) 2167 #if mor is not None: 2168 # # Need to check that this morphism doesn't connect previously unconnected parts of the coercion diagram /home/king/Sage/git/sage/src/sage/structure/parent.pyx in sage.structure.parent.Parent.discover_coerce_map_from (build/cythonized/sage/structure/parent.c:19396)() 2301 return (<Parent>S)._embedding 2302 > 2303 user_provided_mor = self._coerce_map_from_(S) 2304 2305 if user_provided_mor is None or user_provided_mor is False: /home/king/Sage/git/sage/src/sage/structure/parent_old.pyx in sage.structure.parent_old.Parent._coerce_map_from_ (build/cythonized/sage/structure/parent_old.c:7549)() 339 cpdef _coerce_map_from_(self, S): 340 if self._element_constructor is None: > 341 return self.coerce_map_from_c(S) 342 else: 343 return parent.Parent._coerce_map_from_(self, S) /home/king/Sage/git/sage/src/sage/structure/parent_old.pyx in sage.structure.parent_old.Parent.coerce_map_from_c (build/cythonized/sage/structure/parent_old.c:4044)() 157 self._coerce_from_hash[S] = None 158 return None > 159 mor = self.coerce_map_from_c(sage_type) 160 if mor is not None: 161 mor = mor * sage_type._internal_coerce_map_from(S) /home/king/Sage/git/sage/src/sage/structure/parent_old.pyx in sage.structure.parent_old.Parent.coerce_map_from_c (build/cythonized/sage/structure/parent_old.c:3768)() 141 pass 142 > 143 mor = self.coerce_map_from_c_impl(S) 144 import sage.categories.morphism 145 import sage.categories.map /home/king/Sage/git/sage/src/sage/structure/parent_old.pyx in sage.structure.parent_old.Parent.coerce_map_from_c_impl (build/cythonized/sage/structure/parent_old.c:4710)() 189 # Piggyback off the old code for now 190 # WARNING: when working on this, make sure circular dependencies aren't introduced! > 191 if self.has_coerce_map_from_c(S): 192 if isinstance(S, type): 193 S = Set_PythonType(S) /home/king/Sage/git/sage/src/sage/structure/parent_old.pyx in sage.structure.parent_old.Parent.has_coerce_map_from_c (build/cythonized/sage/structure/parent_old.c:6312)() 275 except KeyError: 276 pass > 277 x = self.has_coerce_map_from_c_impl(S) 278 self._has_coerce_map_from.set(S, x) 279 return x /home/king/Sage/git/sage/src/sage/structure/parent_old.pyx in sage.structure.parent_old.Parent.has_coerce_map_from_c_impl (build/cythonized/sage/structure/parent_old.c:6489)() 284 return False 285 try: > 286 self._coerce_c((<parent.Parent>S).an_element()) 287 except TypeError: 288 return False /home/king/Sage/git/sage/src/sage/structure/parent_old.pyx in sage.structure.parent_old.Parent._coerce_c (build/cythonized/sage/structure/parent_old.c:5382)() 217 pass 218 if HAS_DICTIONARY(self): > 219 return self._coerce_impl(x) 220 else: 221 return self._coerce_c_impl(x) /home/king/Sage/git/sage/local/lib/python2.7/sitepackages/sage/matrix/matrix_space.pyc in _coerce_impl(self, x) 1100 and self.base_ring().has_coerce_map_from(x.base_ring())): 1101 return self(x) > 1102 return self._coerce_try(x, self.base_ring()) 1103 1104 def _repr_(self): /home/king/Sage/git/sage/src/sage/structure/parent_old.pyx in sage.structure.parent_old.Parent._coerce_try (build/cythonized/sage/structure/parent_old.c:5902)() 255 try: 256 y = R._coerce_(x) > 257 return self(y) 258 except (TypeError, AttributeError) as msg: 259 pass /home/king/Sage/git/sage/local/lib/python2.7/sitepackages/sage/matrix/matrix_space.pyc in __call__(self, entries, coerce, copy, sparse) 873 [t] 874 """ > 875 return self.matrix(entries, coerce, copy) 876 877 def change_ring(self, R): /home/king/Sage/git/sage/local/lib/python2.7/sitepackages/sage/matrix/matrix_space.pyc in matrix(self, x, coerce, copy) 1886 x = list_to_dict(x, m, n) 1887 copy = False > 1888 return MC(self, x, copy=copy, coerce=coerce) 1889 1890 def matrix_space(self, nrows=None, ncols=None, sparse=False): /home/king/Sage/git/sage/src/sage/matrix/matrix_gfpn_dense.pyx in sage.matrix.matrix_gfpn_dense.Matrix_gfpn_dense.__init__ (build/cythonized/sage/matrix/matrix_gfpn_dense.c:5278)() 423 return 424 if self._nrows != self._ncols: > 425 raise ValueError("Cannot initialise nonsquare matrix from {}".format(data)) 426 f = FfFromInt(self._converter.field_to_int(self._coerce_element(data))) 427 x = self.Data.Data ValueError: Cannot initialise nonsquare matrix from 1
So, perhaps I should retry with #18514 rebased on top of the latest develop branch?
comment:8 Changed 3 years ago by
PS: The same error was observed by other people as well, on #18514. So, I have to see what went wrong there.
comment:9 in reply to: ↑ 7 ; followup: ↓ 12 Changed 3 years ago by
comment:10 Changed 3 years ago by
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comment:11 Changed 3 years ago by
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comment:12 in reply to: ↑ 9 ; followup: ↓ 13 Changed 3 years ago by
comment:13 in reply to: ↑ 12 ; followup: ↓ 14 Changed 3 years ago by
Replying to SimonKing:
Giac fails to build (see attached log). Known problem?
People have reported it but nobody knows how to reproduce it.
comment:14 in reply to: ↑ 13 ; followup: ↓ 15 Changed 3 years ago by
Replying to jdemeyer:
Replying to SimonKing:
Giac fails to build (see attached log). Known problem?
People have reported it but nobody knows how to reproduce it.
Ouch. Any workaround (such as rebuilding from scratch)?
Could it be related with tkinter being installed (which used to not be the case when I last built Sage)?
comment:15 in reply to: ↑ 14 Changed 3 years ago by
Replying to SimonKing:
such as rebuilding from scratch
It's certainly something to try. Please let us whether that fixes your giac problem.
comment:16 Changed 3 years ago by
I don't know why, but the two messages I was trying to send to sagerelease via slrn didn't come through.
Trying now make distclean; make on a clean develop branch.
comment:17 followup: ↓ 21 Changed 3 years ago by
OK, rebuilding from scratch did work. And with clean develop branch, I still get the error.
So, what is special about matrix_gfpn_dense? What is special about multiplying it with an int? And why the heck is _mul_long not called (why has it been removed from sage.matrix in the first place)?
comment:18 Changed 3 years ago by
 Component changed from packages: optional to coercion
 Description modified (diff)
 Summary changed from Unbreak optional meataxe backend to Fix Matrix_gfpn_dense * int
comment:19 Changed 3 years ago by
Now that's really frustrating. It is supposed to be related with coercion. Coercion is supposed to be machine independent. So, why (as Jeroen clarifies in the new ticket description) is the bug only present on some machines?
By the way, on #18514, at least one other person has seen that error. So, it is not restricted to my own laptop.
comment:20 Changed 3 years ago by
If it makes you feel better, I managed to reproduce it on a different machine.
comment:21 in reply to: ↑ 17 ; followup: ↓ 23 Changed 3 years ago by
Replying to SimonKing:
OK, rebuilding from scratch did work. And with clean develop branch, I still get the error.
So, what is special about matrix_gfpn_dense? What is special about multiplying it with an int? And why the heck is _mul_long not called (why has it been removed from sage.matrix in the first place)?
did you try other native python types, e.g. float?
comment:22 followups: ↓ 24 ↓ 27 Changed 3 years ago by
it might be gmp vs mpir difference, by the way.
comment:23 in reply to: ↑ 21 Changed 3 years ago by
Replying to dimpase:
Replying to SimonKing:
OK, rebuilding from scratch did work. And with clean develop branch, I still get the error.
So, what is special about matrix_gfpn_dense? What is special about multiplying it with an int? And why the heck is _mul_long not called (why has it been removed from sage.matrix in the first place)?
did you try other native python types, e.g. float?
Doesn't make sense, as a float doesn't coerce into GF(3).
By inserting print statements into the bin_op method of the coercion model, I found that it isn't even called, although it should be.
comment:24 in reply to: ↑ 22 Changed 3 years ago by
comment:25 Changed 3 years ago by
Or to be precise: The bin_op method *is* called, but it doesn't come to the line "if op is mul or op is imul:..."
comment:26 Changed 3 years ago by
This seems to be fixed (accidentally) by #24742.
Proposal: consider this issue a duplicate, just add a doctest to prevent regressions.
comment:27 in reply to: ↑ 22 ; followup: ↓ 29 Changed 3 years ago by
Replying to dimpase:
it might be gmp vs mpir difference, by the way.
I just noticed something that supports your guess. When doing "sage br", I noticed these lines:
Updating Cython code.... sage/rings/complex_double.pyx: cannot find cimported module 'gmpy2' sage/rings/complex_number.pyx: cannot find cimported module 'gmpy2' sage/rings/integer.pyx: cannot find cimported module 'gmpy2' sage/rings/complex_mpc.pyx: cannot find cimported module 'gmpy2' sage/rings/rational.pyx: cannot find cimported module 'gmpy2' sage/rings/real_double.pyx: cannot find cimported module 'gmpy2' sage/rings/real_mpfr.pyx: cannot find cimported module 'gmpy2'
comment:28 Changed 3 years ago by
 Dependencies set to #24742
comment:29 in reply to: ↑ 27 Changed 3 years ago by
Replying to SimonKing:
sage/rings/complex_double.pyx: cannot find cimported module 'gmpy2' sage/rings/complex_number.pyx: cannot find cimported module 'gmpy2' sage/rings/integer.pyx: cannot find cimported module 'gmpy2' sage/rings/complex_mpc.pyx: cannot find cimported module 'gmpy2' sage/rings/rational.pyx: cannot find cimported module 'gmpy2' sage/rings/real_double.pyx: cannot find cimported module 'gmpy2' sage/rings/real_mpfr.pyx: cannot find cimported module 'gmpy2'
Red herring. Those warnings only mean that the Python package gmpy2
was not installed.
comment:30 Changed 3 years ago by
 Branch set to u/jdemeyer/fix_matrix_gfpn_dense___int
comment:31 Changed 3 years ago by
 Commit set to 59ac78a4cf1f5c103b2e1725c52df27d6b264eb1
 Status changed from new to needs_review
comment:32 followups: ↓ 33 ↓ 34 Changed 3 years ago by
 Status changed from needs_review to needs_work
It isn't fixed. I inserted a print statement in the _mul_long method of matrix_gfpn_dense, but apparently the method is not called.
By consequence, the Python int is converted to an element of the base ring and then multiplied using _lmul_. I should run some timings, but I am sure that this is slower than using _mul_long.
comment:33 in reply to: ↑ 32 Changed 3 years ago by
Replying to SimonKing:
It isn't fixed. I inserted a print statement in the _mul_long method of matrix_gfpn_dense, but apparently the method is not called.
By consequence, the Python int is converted to an element of the base ring and then multiplied using _lmul_. I should run some timings, but I am sure that this is slower than using _mul_long.
Actually it is a lot worse than I thought:
sage: M = random_matrix(GF(9,'x'), 64,51) sage: type(M) <type 'sage.matrix.matrix_gfpn_dense.Matrix_gfpn_dense'> sage: cython(""" ....: from sage.matrix.matrix_gfpn_dense cimport Matrix_gfpn_dense as MTX ....: def test1(MTX M): ....: cdef size_t i ....: cdef MTX N ....: for i in range(100000): ....: N = M*i ....: def test2(MTX M): ....: cdef size_t i ....: cdef MTX N ....: for i in range(100000): ....: N = M._mul_long(i) ....: """) sage: %timeit test1(M) 1 loop, best of 3: 11.7 s per loop sage: %timeit test2(M) 1 loop, best of 3: 366 ms per loop sage: 11.7/0.366 31.9672131147541
So, the current code is almost 32 times slower than what used to happen, in a scenario that I do care about.
Hence, adding a doctest isn't enough.
comment:34 in reply to: ↑ 32 ; followup: ↓ 35 Changed 3 years ago by
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 Commit 59ac78a4cf1f5c103b2e1725c52df27d6b264eb1 deleted
 Dependencies #24742 deleted
Replying to SimonKing:
It isn't fixed.
I just pushed a branch fixing exactly the problem that you described and you're not happy because it doesn't also fix another issue? Good luck fixing it your way then.
comment:35 in reply to: ↑ 34 ; followup: ↓ 37 Changed 3 years ago by
 Dependencies set to #24742
 Description modified (diff)
 Keywords _mul_long added; meataxe coercion removed
Replying to jdemeyer:
Replying to SimonKing:
It isn't fixed.
I just pushed a branch fixing exactly the problem that you described and you're not happy because it doesn't also fix another issue? Good luck fixing it your way then.
Your behaviour makes me speechless. Almost.
The ticket description is about using the shortcut _mul_long as a solution to the problem that Matrix*int didn't work. As it turns out #24742 allows Matrix*int, but it doesn't do it by enabling _mul_long (although _mul_long is supported in sage.structure.element).
So, given the poor performance I demonstrated, there is an issue here that goes beyond what was fixed in #24742, and it is related with what the ticket description of this ticket says.
In addition, I notice that the current implementation of _mul_long for Matrix_gfpn_dense doesn't convert an integer into GF(p^n,'x')
by reduction modulo p, but by some conversion used by MeatAxe. For instance, 4 would be converted to the number x+1 in GF(9,'x'). I didn't notice it before since in my cohomology applications I work with matrices over prime fields, where the different conversions happen to coincide.
Hence, if this ticket is about to "Fix Matrix_gfpn_dense*int", then here one should
 reenable the usage of _mul_long for matrix times int, because of the performance issue
 fix _mul_long of Matrix_gfpn_dense for nonprime fields.
I changed the ticket description accordingly.
Consequently, this ticket is by no means just a duplicate of #24742.
And even when you insist that it is a duplicate: What would be the point of closing this ticket as a duplicate (or maybe just adding a test) and then opening yet another ticket that deals with the two remaining issues?
Alternatively, I could just leave the issues alone and use ._mul_long directly in my cohomology code, to be independent of whatever implementation of coercion is currently used.
comment:36 Changed 3 years ago by
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comment:37 in reply to: ↑ 35 ; followup: ↓ 38 Changed 3 years ago by
Replying to SimonKing:
What would be the point of closing this ticket as a duplicate (or maybe just adding a test) and then opening yet another ticket that deals with the two remaining issues?
 It fixes the issue that
Matrix * int
didn't work.
 It adds a doctest to show that 1. will remain fixed.
comment:38 in reply to: ↑ 37 ; followup: ↓ 39 Changed 3 years ago by
Replying to jdemeyer:
Replying to SimonKing:
What would be the point of closing this ticket as a duplicate (or maybe just adding a test) and then opening yet another ticket that deals with the two remaining issues?
 It fixes the issue that
Matrix * int
didn't work.
 It adds a doctest to show that 1. will remain fixed.
Issue 1 is fixed in the dependency and moreover these are not the only issues related with the original ticket description. And what would be the point of opening yet another ticket when the remaining issue can be dealt with here?
It is, by the way, not without precedence that a ticket description was changed because of issues that came up while working on the original ticket description.
comment:39 in reply to: ↑ 38 Changed 3 years ago by
Replying to SimonKing:
And what would be the point of opening yet another ticket when the remaining issue can be dealt with here?
Because this ticket already does something useful.
To turn your question around: what would be the point of not opening yet another ticket given that there are really two issues here (one about coercing scalars to the base ring and one about using _mul_long
)?
comment:40 Changed 3 years ago by
 Branch set to u/SimonKing/fix_matrix_gfpn_dense___int
comment:41 followup: ↓ 43 Changed 3 years ago by
 Commit set to bed63f0a555cb1b8f291ec65428c0cf972fd40f8
 Description modified (diff)
 Keywords _mul_long removed
 Status changed from needs_work to needs_review
OK, just adding a test here, and then opening another ticket for the two remaining issues (that do belong together).
New commits:
bf9cefd  New MatrixArgs object to deal with constructing matrices

cc82825  Merge branch 'u/jdemeyer/new_matrixinput_object_to_deal_with_constructing_matrices' of git://trac.sagemath.org/sage into t/25076/fix_matrix_gfpn_dense___int

bed63f0  Add a test ensuring that #24742 remains fixed

comment:42 followup: ↓ 44 Changed 3 years ago by
Note that I constructed the test in such a way that blindly using the current implementation of _mul_long would give the wrong result, which means it also makes sure that the followup ticket will use the right conversion.
comment:43 in reply to: ↑ 41 ; followup: ↓ 46 Changed 3 years ago by
Replying to SimonKing:
opening another ticket for the two remaining issues (that do belong together).
Those still look like different issues to me. One is about the coercion model and one is about the meataxe interface.
comment:44 in reply to: ↑ 42 Changed 3 years ago by
comment:45 followup: ↓ 48 Changed 3 years ago by
I think it would be good to refer to this ticket instead of #24742 and to add a test for int * Matrix
too.
comment:46 in reply to: ↑ 43 Changed 3 years ago by
Replying to jdemeyer:
Replying to SimonKing:
opening another ticket for the two remaining issues (that do belong together).
Those still look like different issues to me. One is about the coercion model and one is about the meataxe interface.
Yes, they are two different issues, but it is totally natural to deal with them on a single ticket: When one only fixes the coercion model, one would actually *introduce* a bug (namely: The flawed _mul_long of Matrix_gfpn_dense would be used). When one only fixes the meataxe interface, one wouldn't be able to demonstrate that it is fixed without using cython in doctests.
Yes, using cython in doctests is possible, but why should one, if the existing test "M*int(4)==M" is good enough?
comment:47 Changed 3 years ago by
 Commit changed from bed63f0a555cb1b8f291ec65428c0cf972fd40f8 to f0e97af5a3dbffec014829eb2341abdaecb78e9f
Branch pushed to git repo; I updated commit sha1. New commits:
f0e97af  Modify the test that ensures that #24742 remains fixed

comment:48 in reply to: ↑ 45 Changed 3 years ago by
comment:49 Changed 3 years ago by
 Reviewers set to Jeroen Demeyer
 Status changed from needs_review to positive_review
comment:50 Changed 3 years ago by
 Branch changed from u/SimonKing/fix_matrix_gfpn_dense___int to f0e97af5a3dbffec014829eb2341abdaecb78e9f
 Resolution set to fixed
 Status changed from positive_review to closed
comment:51 Changed 3 years ago by
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While we are at it: How is one supposed to run optional tests? It seems that "sage t optional=meataxe" will ONLY run the tests marked as optional, hence, it will skip all compulsory tests, and thus will fail in most tests as definitions given in the compulsory tests are missing when running the optional tests.