Opened 8 years ago
Closed 7 years ago
#12987 closed defect (duplicate)
When comparing ideals, try to avoid computing the Gröbner basis of a copy of the ideal
Reported by: | SimonKing | Owned by: | malb |
---|---|---|---|
Priority: | major | Milestone: | sage-duplicate/invalid/wontfix |
Component: | commutative algebra | Keywords: | |
Cc: | malb | Merged in: | |
Authors: | Reviewers: | Simon King | |
Report Upstream: | N/A | Work issues: | |
Branch: | Commit: | ||
Dependencies: | #12802 | Stopgaps: |
Description
We define a polynomial ring, some ideal, and a copy of that ideal.
sage: P.<x,y> = QQ[] sage: J = [x^4*y^4 + 2*x^2*y^5 + y^6 - 2/3*x^2*y^2 - 2/3*y^3 + 1/9, 9/16*y^6 - x^2*y^3 + 3/2*x*y^4 + 1/2*y^5 + 4/9*x^4 - 4/3*x^3*y + 5/9*x^2*y^2 + 2/3*x*y^3 + 1/9*y^4 + 12*y^3 - 32/3*x^2 + 16*x*y + 16/3*y^2 + 64, y^8 - 2/5*x^3*y^4 + 1/25*x^6 - 4/11*x*y^4 + 6*y^5 + 4/55*x^4 - 6/5*x^3*y + 10*y^4 - 2*x^3 + 4/121*x^2 - 12/11*x*y + 9*y^2 - 20/11*x + 30*y + 25, 1/400*x^4*y^4 - 1/5*x^5*y^2 - 1/20*x^4*y^3 + 4*x^6 + 2*x^5*y + 11/20*x^4*y^2 - 12*x^5 - 3*x^4*y + 9*x^4]*P sage: J2 = J.gens()*P
We have:
sage: %timeit J==J2 5 loops, best of 3: 642 ms per loop sage: _ = J.groebner_basis() sage: %timeit J==J2 5 loops, best of 3: 642 ms per loop sage: _ = J2.groebner_basis() sage: %timeit J==J2 625 loops, best of 3: 6.67 µs per loop
Hence, only when the Gröbner bases of both arguments are cached, then the cached Gröbner bases are used. As one can see by reading the code, even if only one argument does not have the Gröbner basis cached, then Gröbner bases are computed for degrevlex copies of both arguments.
Why copies? We have the same ring here, and we have degrevlex anyway. So, there is no need to copy.
Suggestion: Make the algorithm slightly more clever, so that taking a copy is avoided when the ring is degrevlex anyway. One could also consider to prepend a quick test, such as: Compare the set of generators, and compute Gröbner bases only if the quick test does not suffice to prove equality.
Change History (5)
comment:1 Changed 8 years ago by
- Status changed from new to needs_review
comment:2 Changed 8 years ago by
- Milestone changed from sage-5.1 to sage-duplicate/invalid/wontfix
- Reviewers set to Simon King
- Status changed from needs_review to positive_review
comment:3 Changed 8 years ago by
- Dependencies set to #12802
comment:4 Changed 8 years ago by
Jeroen, why "dependency"? This here is really just a duplicate.
comment:5 Changed 7 years ago by
- Resolution set to duplicate
- Status changed from positive_review to closed
- Summary changed from When comparing ideals, ty to avoid computing the Gröbner basis of a copy of the ideal to When comparing ideals, try to avoid computing the Gröbner basis of a copy of the ideal
It seems that this problem shall be dealt with at #12802. Hence, I'll mark it as duplicate.