Opened 8 years ago
Closed 5 years ago
#12822 closed enhancement (fixed)
Portuguese translation of "Tutorial"
Reported by:  goliveira  Owned by:  mvngu 

Priority:  minor  Milestone:  sage6.6 
Component:  translations  Keywords:  translation, portuguese 
Cc:  r.gaia.cs, jhpalmieri, jdemeyer  Merged in:  
Authors:  Gustavo de Oliveira  Reviewers:  Paulo César Pereira de Andrade, Jeroen Demeyer, Frédéric Chapoton, KarlDieter Crisman 
Report Upstream:  N/A  Work issues:  
Branch:  9dc3771 (Commits)  Commit:  9dc3771aea869eaa342c98e535bc3d7681af2230 
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Description (last modified by )
Portuguese translation of "Tutorial".
The current version of the translation includes "the first revision" and a minor modification (incorporating a suggestion above). "The first revision" originated from a discussion at sagedevel:
https://groups.google.com/d/topic/sagedevel/2fjtcJTTNr8/discussion
Everything is combined in a single patch.
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I have rebase the #12502.
IMHO, it best to translate the comments of the codes, e.g., in the place of
sage: 2**3 # ** means exponent
should be use
sage: 2**3 # ** indica potenciação
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I built my fedora sagemath 5.4.beta1 experimental package with procedure to copy png files and patch from #12502 and patches here, and it builds and works correctly.
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Is it possible to also remove the nonstandard uses of \
line continuations, see #14512.
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dc9bb19  trac #12822 one more \ missed

comment:29 followup: ↓ 30 Changed 5 years ago by
Anyone have a sense of what is still needed here? It's rather impressively complete.
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Replying to kcrisman:
Anyone have a sense of what is still needed here? It's rather impressively complete.
In the file latex.rst, there are references to the obsolete jsMath, which was replaced by MathJax? in more recent versions. This has to be updated in the translation.
You are right, the above report is not clear at all (but thanks to the people that worked on this nevertheless). I think that the other issues that were raised are solved. For instance, the presence of obsolete \ to break lines, and old notation for line continuation in the sage prompt. I did a search on the files and I believe this is solved.
As far as I know, the only remaining issue is the reference to the obsolete jsMath. (I am going to fix this until the end of the week.)
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As far as I know, the only remaining issue is the reference to the obsolete jsMath. (I am going to fix this until the end of the week.)
Sorry, I should have asked whether there was anything linguistic, but I think comment:10 answers that. Awesome, and thanks for fixing this. Then we can add it a link on the website as well  see http://www.sagemath.org/pt/ for a totally different, but apparently useful, tutorial.
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This apparently makes several graphics files while being tested. Can you look into this?
Also, there is a bad link  dive into Python now is at http://www.diveintopython.net/
Martin Albrecht (malb@…) is probably old, though also probably still in the regular tutorial.
Finally, numerous doctest failures  mostly trivial related to graphics, but quite a few others related to Pari and other stuff as well.
comment:35 Changed 5 years ago by
Also, shouldn't comment like # automatic coercion before addition
be translated too?
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I think I have taken care of
 created graphics
 bad links and addresses
 failing doctests
There remains the question of traduction of comments.
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********************************************************************** File "src/doc/pt/tutorial/programming.rst", line 512, in doc.pt.tutorial.programming Failed example: X Expected: {1, 19, 'a'} Got: {'a', 1, 19}
This is because sets don't print deterministically.
https://docs.python.org/ref/ref.html doesn't work either, nor does http://ipython.scipy.org/doc/rel0.9.1/html/interactive/reference.html#magiccommands (a link in interactive_shell.html) ... sigh, I don't have time to just click on every link! And sage docbuild warnlinks
I think only works for internal links.
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d3540f3  trac #12822 set order is random, corrected html links

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429d63a  trac # ipython version typo

comment:42 Changed 5 years ago by
How do we deal with other set output? Maybe list(set)
? After all,
sage: Y {2/3, 1}
may be different on other systems, I assume. Thoughts/opinions?
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61fdeb5  trac #12822 sets are printed in random order (bis)

comment:44 followup: ↓ 48 Changed 5 years ago by
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Whenever I do the docbuild with warnlinks
I get
[tutorial ] /Users/.../sage/src/doc/pt/tutorial/interactive_shell.rst:403: WARNING: envvar reference target not found: EDITOR
but not without that, and not if I docbuild a second time. I'm not sure if that matters, unless perhaps we no longer have an EDITOR
variable? I'm cc:ing a couple people who know what that flag does better than I do.
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https://docs.python.org/devguide/ seems to be the best link nowadays for the way one actually develops Python, I couldn't even easily find "Guido, Some Guys, and a Mailing List: How Python is Developed" on the official Python site.
http://sagemath.org/doc/thematic_tutorials/coercion_and_categories.html is the new link for tour_coercion.html and of course the Portuguese for that link ( como um arquivo Sage.) would not be quite right.
altermundus link is now http://altermundus.com/pages/tkz/graph/ (in latex.html)
Both links to the Python documentation at programming.html#dicionarios are dead
sagetex.html has (este link deve leválo a uma cópia local do guia de instalação para mais informações de como proceder.
but in any case "este link" is wrong because there is no pt installation guide. I say remove that whole bit.
Sorry for the laundry list, but I find that you and I have a good workflow on this sort of thing! It's really very close to being done, thanks for helping shepherd some of these lesspopular tickets to completion.
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(Which is all to say that these are cosmetic changes intended to make sure that users coming to this aren't confronted with tons of bad links; this is basically ready to go.)
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9dc3771  trac #12822 more care about the links

comment:48 in reply to: ↑ 44 Changed 5 years ago by
Replying to kcrisman:
Whenever I do the docbuild with
warnlinks
I get[tutorial ] /Users/.../sage/src/doc/pt/tutorial/interactive_shell.rst:403: WARNING: envvar reference target not found: EDITORbut not without that, and not if I docbuild a second time. I'm not sure if that matters, unless perhaps we no longer have an
EDITOR
variable? I'm cc:ing a couple people who know what that flag does better than I do.
I don't think this matters. The issue is that :envvar:`EDITOR`
can create a crossreference to an entry in a construction like .. envvar:: name
. We only use the :envvar:`...`
markup to typeset environment variables consistently, not for the crossreferencing. So in fact you will get lots of such errors if you build the installation manual with warnlinks
, because there are lots of environment variables discussed there.
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Okay, then anything else I saw is also a problem in the actual tutorial, soooo let's get this in!!! Awesome.
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In
doc/pt/tutorial/programming.rst
Removed untranslated "preparsing", should have used "préprocessamento".
I know I commented about "macro" not having a proper translation in pt_BR, but it is already so commonly used, that it should be better to use it instead of "função" (english function).
Remaining looks good, but I still make considerations about conversion and coercion, that by themselves are also confusing in english, and pt_BR makes things worse by having several translations for coercion, most of which are about forced to do something, slavering, etc :)
It is also funny that "coercion" accordingly to sage documentation stand for "implicit conversion", but common lisp has the function "coerce" that is used for "explicit conversion".