#10951 closed enhancement (fixed)
ecmfactor should take as optional argument the sigma value
Reported by:  zimmerma  Owned by:  tbd 

Priority:  minor  Milestone:  sage6.9 
Component:  factorization  Keywords:  sd32, sd40.5 
Cc:  AlexGhitza, cremona, rlm, jpflori  Merged in:  
Authors:  Paul Zimmermann  Reviewers:  Mike Hansen, Frédéric Chapoton, JeanPierre Flori 
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Description
I suggest the ecmfactor
function takes as optional argument a sigma
value, which would be passed to GMPECM. In case of a successful
factorization, this would allow to know the lucky curve, for
example to report it on some tables of records.
For example I found a 61digit prime factor using ecmfactor
,
but was unable to know the lucky sigma
(http://www.loria.fr/~zimmerma/records/ecmnet.html).
Alternatively, one could store the (random) sigma value chosen by GMPECM if not sigma was given, but that might be more difficult to implement.
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This function seems to lack documentation. I do not see anything about it at http://sagemath.org/doc/reference/libs.html.
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Replying to mariah:
This function seems to lack documentation. I do not see anything about it at http://sagemath.org/doc/reference/libs.html.
you are right. However this was already the case before my patch. The best would be to open a separate ticket to add documentation for this function.
Paul
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Looks good to me. I've made #13042 to add the module to the reference manual.
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This patch should still be rebased to #12777 and the new option should be documented.
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any progress on this? I just found a 59digit factor with ecmfactor, but I'm unable to know which sigma value was used. If I was able to give the sigma value, I would know.
Paul
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rebased with the help of Marc Mezzarobba. Remains to do:
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this looks good to me.
I have removed some of the newly introduced random keywords.
If somebody else agrees, this can be put into positive review.
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173f5b0  patch for #10951 (added optional input of sigma, and return lucky sigma)

45a5de7  fixes and improved documentation

4a59cea  trac #10951 not so many random

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thank you Frederic for your review. For ecmfactor(2^1671, 2e5)
the 7digit factor is always found by ECM since the curve has order divisible by 12 at least. However the 44digit factor might be found in some (very) rare cases, which was the reason for the "random" keyword. The other cases are fine.
Paul
the attached file does two things:
(1) if an optional sigma=nnn input is given to ecmfactor, it uses that value (nnn) to choose the elliptic curve, instead of a random one. This allows to get a deterministic behaviour;
(2) if a nontrivial factor was found (with a random or usergiven sigma) it is returned by ecmfactor, which now returns (True, N, sigma)
Paul