Opened 11 years ago

Closed 5 years ago

#10165 closed enhancement (fixed)

Begin Spanish translation of the tutorial

Reported by: pdenapo Owned by: pdenapo
Priority: major Milestone: sage-7.1
Component: translations Keywords: spanish
Cc: lftabera, pang Merged in:
Authors: Luis F. Villegas, Pablo De Nápoli Reviewers: Frédéric Chapoton, Karl-Dieter Crisman, Luis Felipe Tabera Alonso, Javier Honrubia González
Report Upstream: N/A Work issues:
Branch: 6ec3eb5 (Commits, GitHub, GitLab) Commit: 6ec3eb5c4c18d75b83adf0ef7f7783ca451a63cc
Dependencies: Stopgaps:

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Description (last modified by kcrisman)

There are several parts of the tutorial that have been already translated to Spanish by Luis V.

I'm working on reviewing his translation and make a unified patch to it gets included into Sage

#7225: "Introduction"

#7221 "Welcome to the Sage Tutorial!"

#7222 "Getting Help"

#7224 "A Guided Tour"

#7223: "Assignment, Equality, and Arithmetic"

#7226: "Basic Algebra and Calculus"

Related info:

pang, 28-10-10: I have added ticket #10180 Partial translation of "A guided Tour" containing sections:

  • Basic Rings
  • Linear Algebra
  • Polynomials
  • Finite Groups, Abelian Groups
  • Number Theory

See also #7192

Followup is #17335.

Change History (53)

comment:1 Changed 11 years ago by pdenapo

  • Type changed from PLEASE CHANGE to enhancement

comment:2 Changed 11 years ago by pdenapo

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comment:3 Changed 11 years ago by pdenapo

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comment:6 Changed 11 years ago by lftabera

  • Cc lftabera added

comment:7 Changed 11 years ago by pdenapo

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comment:8 Changed 11 years ago by pang

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comment:9 Changed 11 years ago by pang

  • Cc pang added

comment:10 Changed 8 years ago by jdemeyer

  • Milestone changed from sage-5.11 to sage-5.12

comment:11 Changed 7 years ago by vbraun_spam

  • Milestone changed from sage-6.1 to sage-6.2

comment:12 Changed 7 years ago by vbraun_spam

  • Milestone changed from sage-6.2 to sage-6.3

comment:13 Changed 7 years ago by chapoton

  • Keywords spanish added

comment:14 Changed 7 years ago by chapoton

  • Branch set to u/chapoton/10165
  • Commit set to 740870cfdf117050d7ac21006400e4bce3c5d40b

I have taken everything available in tickets #7221, #7222, #7223, #7224, #7225, #7226

and made a single branch out of that. The doc builds and pass the doctests.


New commits:

740870ctrac #10165 gathering all spanish texts into one single branch

comment:15 Changed 7 years ago by git

  • Commit changed from 740870cfdf117050d7ac21006400e4bce3c5d40b to e4287bb41151d4724845f316b7e5844c596e4576

Branch pushed to git repo; I updated commit sha1. New commits:

e4287bbtrac 10165 make sure that doc builds

comment:16 Changed 7 years ago by chapoton

  • Status changed from new to needs_review

comment:17 Changed 7 years ago by vbraun_spam

  • Milestone changed from sage-6.3 to sage-6.4

comment:18 Changed 7 years ago by chapoton

  • Status changed from needs_review to needs_work

it seems that it does not build, see patchbot report

comment:19 Changed 7 years ago by kcrisman

  • Authors set to Luis V., Pablo De Nápoli
  • Reviewers set to Frédéric Chapoton

comment:20 Changed 7 years ago by kcrisman

  • Description modified (diff)

comment:21 Changed 7 years ago by kcrisman

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comment:22 Changed 7 years ago by kcrisman

The build error was due to referring to some more nonexistent (yet) sections, I think.

comment:23 Changed 7 years ago by kcrisman

  • Authors changed from Luis V., Pablo De Nápoli to Luis F. Villegas, Pablo De Nápoli

comment:24 Changed 7 years ago by kcrisman

  • Branch changed from u/chapoton/10165 to u/kcrisman/spanish-10165
  • Commit changed from e4287bb41151d4724845f316b7e5844c596e4576 to f4fca84957d7e442ed84948c5c447970a64334af
  • Reviewers changed from Frédéric Chapoton to Frédéric Chapoton, Karl-Dieter Crisman
  • Status changed from needs_work to needs_review

New commits:

78a997dMerge branch 'u/chapoton/10165' of trac.sagemath.org:sage into spanish
f4fca84Fix build and doctests

comment:25 Changed 7 years ago by kcrisman

  • Description modified (diff)

comment:26 Changed 7 years ago by kcrisman

  • Summary changed from Spanish translation of the tutorial to Begin panish translation of the tutorial

comment:27 Changed 7 years ago by kcrisman

  • Summary changed from Begin panish translation of the tutorial to Begin Spanish translation of the tutorial

comment:29 Changed 6 years ago by kcrisman

  • Component changed from documentation to translations

comment:30 Changed 6 years ago by kcrisman

  • Branch changed from u/kcrisman/spanish-10165 to u/lftabera/tutorial-spanish
  • Commit changed from f4fca84957d7e442ed84948c5c447970a64334af to 06b08bffd679bad37ab5589b7129e0490e44016f
  • Reviewers changed from Frédéric Chapoton, Karl-Dieter Crisman to Frédéric Chapoton, Karl-Dieter Crisman, Luis Felipe Tabera Alonso

Some pretty significant typo changes but hopefully we can review them quickly.


New commits:

120d175Merge branch 'master' into tutorial
06b08bfCorrect several typos in the Spanish tutorial

comment:31 Changed 6 years ago by kcrisman

For example, any of the original authors could feel free to weigh in...

comment:32 Changed 6 years ago by chapoton

  • Branch changed from u/lftabera/tutorial-spanish to u/chapoton/10165
  • Commit changed from 06b08bffd679bad37ab5589b7129e0490e44016f to 044c4463a1d1fc1c810b12bedb6fa0ebf14a67ce

I made sure one uses the new style of doctest continuation.


New commits:

b043668Merge branch 'u/lftabera/tutorial-spanish' of ssh://trac.sagemath.org:22/sage into 6.5.b4
044c446trac #10165 modern style ....: of doctest continuation

comment:33 Changed 6 years ago by kcrisman

Thanks, then all that is needed is checking that this commit is correct linguistically.

comment:34 Changed 6 years ago by chapoton

Maybe we can get this into sage despite some eventual "linguistic issues" ?

comment:35 Changed 6 years ago by chapoton

  • Milestone changed from sage-6.4 to sage-6.8

comment:36 Changed 6 years ago by chapoton

Ok, guys, I vote for inclusion of that, even if not perfect. PatchBot? is green-happy, right now.

Could one of you express its agreement and put this into positive review, please ?

comment:37 Changed 6 years ago by chapoton

  • Milestone changed from sage-6.8 to sage-6.9

comment:38 Changed 6 years ago by chapoton

Ping ?

comment:39 Changed 6 years ago by chapoton

  • Milestone changed from sage-6.9 to sage-6.10

comment:40 Changed 5 years ago by jhonrubia6

I only see a minor linguistic issue with the use of "Ésto". Since 2010 we do not place a diacritic accent in demonstrative pronouns. As in "código fuente para los usuarios de Linux, OS X y Windows. Ésto provee + a los usuarios de una mayor flexibilidad para que modifiquen el sistema." should be "código fuente para los usuarios de Linux, OS X y Windows. Esto provee + a los usuarios de una mayor flexibilidad para que modifiquen el sistema."

And in "+donde :math:h>0 está dado y es pequeño. Ésto, junto con la ED, dan" should be "+donde :math:h>0 está dado y es pequeño. Esto, junto con la ED, dan"

Let me know if I can be of any help.

Last edited 5 years ago by jhonrubia6 (previous) (diff)

comment:41 Changed 5 years ago by kcrisman

Thank you so much! Is this true only in Spain or also in the broader Spanish-speaking world?

If you can put your name in the "Reviewers" section that would be very helpful.

comment:42 Changed 5 years ago by jhonrubia6

Prior to 2010, the use of diacritic accent for demonstrative pronouns "este","ese" and "aquel" was recommended whenever they could be confusion as to whether interpret them as adjective or pronoun. So, other demonstrative pronouns like "esto","eso" or "aquello" which do not have adjective counterparts never required diacritic accent. As from 2010 revision from RAE (Real academia Española) it is discouraged even in the former case ("este","ese" and "aquel") though allowed. These rules are common for all spanish language countries, since it's a panhispanic work.

comment:43 Changed 5 years ago by jhonrubia6

  • Reviewers changed from Frédéric Chapoton, Karl-Dieter Crisman, Luis Felipe Tabera Alonso to Frédéric Chapoton, Karl-Dieter Crisman, Luis Felipe Tabera Alonso, Javier Honrubia González

comment:44 Changed 5 years ago by kcrisman

Issues I see when compiling.

  • A broken link or two - trying to fix.
  • /src/doc/output/html/es/tutorial/index.html has a link to sage/src/doc/output/html/es/tutorial/py-modindex.html, which however doesn't exist. It does exist in the English and the French translation. Any ideas on what happened there - did I compile the doc wrong? (Just did make doc.) Similarly for sage/src/doc/output/html/fr/tutorial/genindex-all.html, which exists but doesn't have anything in it. Maybe this is because not everything is in the doc yet.
  • Also had to fix a doctest.
Last edited 5 years ago by kcrisman (previous) (diff)

comment:45 Changed 5 years ago by kcrisman

Pushing this. The module list in the other language docs has broken links anyway, and there are no elements to the gen index because there is nothing to put in it. Pushing.

comment:46 Changed 5 years ago by kcrisman

  • Branch changed from u/chapoton/10165 to u/kcrisman/ticket/10165
  • Commit changed from 044c4463a1d1fc1c810b12bedb6fa0ebf14a67ce to 6ec3eb5c4c18d75b83adf0ef7f7783ca451a63cc
  • Status changed from needs_review to positive_review

New commits:

6f53e56Merge branch 'u/chapoton/10165' of git://trac.sagemath.org/sage into ticket/10165
6ec3eb5Final fixes for Spanish tour, stage 1

comment:47 Changed 5 years ago by kcrisman

Thanks chapoton and everyone else!

chapoton, do you know what the status of #10180 is with respect to the stuff here? I guess one could just only add the modules there (including restoring any needed links).

comment:48 Changed 5 years ago by vbraun

  • Status changed from positive_review to needs_work

PDF docs don't build

! Package babel Error: You haven't specified a language option.

See the babel package documentation for explanation.
Type  H <return>  for immediate help.
 ...                                              
                                                  
l.330 ...ry to proceed from here, type x to quit.}
                                                  
? 
! Emergency stop.

comment:49 Changed 5 years ago by chapoton

  • Milestone changed from sage-6.10 to sage-7.0

comment:50 Changed 5 years ago by jhonrubia6

  • Status changed from needs_work to needs_review

I just checked out the branch, rebuilt the entire documentation with 'make doc-pdf' successfully creating the SageTutorial?.pdf under sage/src/doc/output/pdf/es/tutorial Could you indicate in which file did you get the error?

comment:51 Changed 5 years ago by chapoton

  • Milestone changed from sage-7.0 to sage-7.1

comment:52 Changed 5 years ago by vbraun

  • Status changed from needs_review to positive_review

OK was missing the texlive-babel-spanish package..

comment:53 Changed 5 years ago by vbraun

  • Branch changed from u/kcrisman/ticket/10165 to 6ec3eb5c4c18d75b83adf0ef7f7783ca451a63cc
  • Resolution set to fixed
  • Status changed from positive_review to closed
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